This week has been a good one, full of appointments and phone calls!
I met with my Endometriosis surgeon on Tuesday morning has agreed to pursue the second bowel resection to remove the Endometriosis on my sigmoid colon. Then just 30 minutes later, I had a telemedicine appointment with my primary care provider who submitted the insurance authorization request for the referral to my colo-rectal surgeon.
That same afternoon, I scheduled my consultation appointment with my colo-rectal surgeon, even though we hadn’t received insurance approval; a step that may take one to two weeks.
I woke up Wednesday morning to an email from my medical group approving the colo-rectal surgey consult, surgery, and several post-op visits!
It’s in the works! So quickly! I currently am scheduled to see my colo-rectal surgeon on September 22nd, but have asked to be put on the cancellation list in case his calendar opens up sooner. We shall see! Then? Get that surgery on calendar to deal with my guts!
Fight. Push forward. Do what you need to do for YOU. Whatever it may be.
So today’s quote:
“Don’t just seek out help when you are suffering. Every day is a good day to learn, grow, and help yourself. Every day is a good day to invest in bettering the quality of your life.”
Welcome to the first Friday in September. I hope that you’re all doing well. And if you’re not doing well, I hope that you find something happy to cling onto to get you through today. If you need to talk to someone, I’m always around.
For anyone feeling alone, struggling, fighting…you are not alone.
This disease often makes us isolated. We may lose friends or loved ones because of our inablity to attend events, cancelling at the last minute, always “complaining” of our pain, etc. I’ve been there. I’ve lost people, too.
But do you what what? We’ll always have each other. Always.
“So what if the sun isn’t shining? Fearing the darkness won’t make it go away, the only way is to fight it with light, come, let’s all light our candles and stand together, the darkness will vanish…”
Bladder & Endometriosis: Added Nov. 2020 (we jumped ahead to the future!) study released in the Urology Case Reports journal is of a woman who complained of painful urination, difficulty voiding, incontinence, and a frequency to urinate.
Cervical Endometriosis: Added a 2019 study of cervical endometriosis to our ongoing entry of Endo and the cervix. A 24-year-old woman had an abnormal pap smear, chronic pelvic pain, infertility, and painful periods. She had visible violet nodules on her cervix, and surgery confirmed a big ol’ lesion on her cervix…which was discovered only after they “unstuck” her rectum from her cervix in surgery. No other Endo in her pelvic cavity.
Endometriosis & the Appendix: Added a June 2020 study of a 45-year-old woman with Endo on her appendix and cecum to our ongoing blog about endo on the appendix. Have you been diagnosed with appendiceal endometriosis? What were your symptoms, if any? Suspect you have it? Make a note of your symptoms to talk to your doctor.
Endometriosis & the Lungs: added a study to our ever-growing Endometriosis & the Lungs blog entry. This one of a post-menopausal woman who suffered from a collapsed left lung due to Endometriosis lesions. Don’t even try to convince me Endo goes away for everyone after menopause.
Orilissa: Abbvies’ New Drug to Manage Endometriosis Symptoms: Updated our post about Elagolix by adding four Abbvie-funded studies ranging from August 2019-August 2020. They covered Endometriosis-related fatigue, initial dosing, Add-Back therapy, and bone density risks of fractures and osteoporosis. Have you tried Orilissa? What are your thoughts? Did it help? Hinder? Did you feel any side effects? I’d LOVE to add testimonials from EndoWarriors who have been on Orilissa to this blog. I can keep it anonymous if you wish; just shoot me an email or a comment below.
If you’ve been a long-time follower of the blog, you may remember in 2014 when my surgeon found Endometriosis on my diaphragm. Several years later, it had completely disappeared (yay!). And it hasn’t been found in any of my subsequent surgeries. This research has been a lot of fun because of my own personal journey.
We’ve previously shared Endo Lady UK‘s experience with her own diaphragmatic Endometriosis, as well as a surgery to remove diaphragmatic Endo. We’ve even had a few brave readers, Lyndsayand Tabitha, share their own stories about endo on their diaphragm.
Diaphragmatic Endometriosis is considered extremely rare. Some studies stated that it’s only in 1-1.5% of patients with Endometriosis. So I wanted to explore the published cases and share them with you. And express that such a rarity doesn’t mean you may not have it. You may. You may not.
So, what are the symptoms? Read on!
Here’s a list of symptoms I’ve seen that diaphragmatic endometriosis sufferers reported in the case studies below. You may have some, none, or all of these. And they may be indicative of endo on your diaphragm, or not. You know the drill: it may be endo. It may not. It may be something else completely. But I wanted to lay these out for you in one simple place…if nothing else, to be a springboard to a conversation with your doctor. And several of these symptoms coincide with Endometriosis and the lungs as several instances of collapsed lungs also involved diaphragmatic endo..
Coughing, with or without blood
Upper arm and/or shoulder pain; usually on the right
Upper quadrant pain; usually on the right
Pain under the lower ribs
These symptoms may worsen around the time of your period, although some people have symptoms constantly
Some patients had zero symptoms
Some patients exhibited these symptoms even after a hysterectomy
Diagnosing diaphragmatic Endo, of course, can only truly be done with surgery and biopsy, but here are some diagnostic tests and tools that may be done along the journey:
If you do wish to discuss the possibility of diaphragmatic Endometriosis with your healthcare provider, please be sure to write down your symptoms, when they occur, how long they last, how bad they hurt, what other symptoms you have at the same time, etc. The more details you have, the more you can offer while providing the medical history of your complaints.
Feel free to stand up and point to portions of your body that hurt. Or offer a drawing to your physician of specific areas and locations of your pain.
Use descriptive terms. Does the pain burn? Travel across your body? Cramping? Does it linger or fade quickly? Don’t be afraid to let it all hang out.
The devil is in the details.
The always-present physical examination. You’ll likely be pushed, prodded, poked, palpated, and pressed. If something hurts when they push down, let them know. If it feels weird or maybe doesn’t hurt at all, express that, too. The more information they have, the better.
Our favorite…Endo may or may not show up on imaging studies. But some imaging studies came in particularly helpful in the studies below.
X-rays, usually won’t show squat.
Ultrasounds can sometimes show when things are amiss.
CT Scans and MRIs oftentimes showed masses where they shouldn’t be in the cases of diaphragmatic Endometriosis below. That being said; however, it’s not the end-all-be-all of pre-surgery diagnostics. You can still have a lesion and it not show up on studies. So if you get a normal result, but continue to be in pain, don’t be afraid to push for options.
Of course, I’m a huge proponent of excision surgery, but I know it’s not for everyone! And oftentimes other avenues must be exhausted before insurance will approve one. Every journey is different!
Plenty of doctors will push pharmaceutical treatment for symptom management, either before or after a surgery. The options appear to be what they always are: hormonal birth control, some type of pain management, or suppressive medications such as Lupron Depot, Orilissa, Danazol, etc.
Here’s where the fun begins. I’ve read about plenty of laparoscopic surgeries to find and remove diaphragmatic Endometriosis, but also several that involved a VATS surgery (video-assisted thoracoscopic surgery).
For those of us not in the know (I know I wasn’t before today), a thoracoscopy is a surgery where a teeny camera is placed through an incision in the chest, which allows visualization outside the lungs and into the space between the lungs and chest wall. It’s usually considered minimally invasive.
And there’s choices of ablation versus excision…but you know my thoughts on that.
Some women (in the studies below) have even had the nerves around these areas of the body burned in order to achieve symptom relief.
And, always always allllways, Endometriosis is confirmed through pathology and biopsy results.
In 1994, La Revuew de Medecine Interne published a study of a young woman who was diagnosed with diaphragmatic Endometriosis and did not have any history of collapsed lungs. The 21-year-old complained of tight pain along her phrenic nerve (the nerve that runs along the lungs and diaphragm) for a year-and-a-half. During an exploratory surgery, they found pelvic Endometriosis lesions on the underside of her diaphragm. After reviewing medical literature for previous cases of diaphragmatic Endometriosis, the authors “confirm that imaging studies are of little value.” So, please never be discouraged if your imaging study yields normal results and you know there’s something hanky. You know your body. And you know when it doesn’t feel right.
In 1995, the Journal of Obstetrics & Gynaecology published a study of a 24-year-old patent who right right shoulder pain when she was on her period. She also complained of painful periods and had been taking a combined birth control pill. Her shoulder was normal upon physical examination. And the rest of her body was also normal. Blood tests were, of course, normal except for elevated levels of CA-125. A chest x-ray and pelvic ultrasound were also normal. They suspected Endometriosis and opted for an exploratory laparoscopy. She had lesions on her uterasacral ligaments and her ovaries were “tethered” by adhesions. They also found four lesions on the right underside of her diaphragm. There is absotely NO mention of any excision or ablation of the lesions around her ligaments, but they stated due to the hazards presented with the diaphragm they opted to leave the spots alone. They treated her with six months of Buserelin nasal spray (a GnRH agonist) three times a day and and add-back therapy (norethisterone). She remained symptom free.
The Japanese Journal of Thoracic Surgery published a 1999 study of a 30-year-old woman who had two right collapsed lungs within two months of each other; both at the start of menstruation. During surgery, they saw “blue berry spots” and a “pinhole” on her diaphragm. They resected a small portion of her diaphragm and sent it off to pathology, which of course came back as Endometriosis. She opted out of hormonal therapy, but unfortunately had recurrent lung collapses and was later placed on five months of Lupron Depot. She had no further recurrence seven months after surgery when the study was written.
In 2002, Dr. Redwine published a study in Fertility and Sterility. He found that seven out of eight patients that underwent laparoscopic resection of diaphragmatic endometriosis lesions resulted in “complete eradication of symptoms.” The eighth had good symptomatic reduction.
The journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology published a study in 2004 of a 50-year-old woman who had a hysterectomy 10 years previously that removed her uterus, right fallopian tube, and right ovary. She went to the hospital with complaints of upper right quadrant pain. A CT Scan found a lesion on her right diaphragm and an exploratory laparoscopy was performed. She had a 4cm cyst on her diaphragm, which was smooshing into her liver. It was thick and contained “chocolate-like material” (sound familiar?). The mass was excised and pathology confirmed it was an endometrioma. There were no other lesions or cysts discovered in her pelvic cavity. The authors stress that although rare, endometriosis should not be excluded as a possible diagnoses even after a hysterectomy.
Suffer from chronic shoulder pain? In 2006, Rheumatology published a study of a 25-year-old woman who had a three-year history of right shoulder pain. It frequently started with her period and was managed with Ibuprofen. A physical examination, x-rays, and blood tests were all normal. MRIs were conducted of the shoulder and of the diaphragm, which showed evidence of recent hemorrhaging of her diaphragm. A laparoscopic surgery was performed and the diaphragmatic lesions were ablated (ugh). After surgery, the client was on a continuous progestogen pill and her symptoms were resolved.
Dr. Camran Nezhat and colleagues published a study in the September 2009 edition of the Journal of Minimally Invasive Gynecology. It discussed the cases of four women who were diagnosed with diaphragmatic endometriosis from June 2008 through September 2008. All four had a medical history of chest pain, three complained of pelvic pain, two had collapsed lungs, two had previous diagnoses of Endometriosis, and three had been on some sort of hormonal treatment. All were surgically treated with a combination of laparoscopy and thoracoscopy procedures. Nine months after their surgeries, the four women remained free of chest pain, and only one had recurrent pelvic pain. They suggest for patients with pelvic and chest complaints, or exhibiting other symptoms of diaphragmatic endometriosis, that a combination of both laparoscopy and thoracoscopy be considered for surgery.
In 2010, the Interactive CardioVascular and Thoracic Surgery journal published a study of a 43-year-old woman who went to the emergency room due to right chest pain. A physical exam revealed diminished breath sounds in her left upper chest. A chest x-ray showed a collapsed right lung and the right side of her diaphragm was raised higher than it should be. A CT scan showed that the liver and a part of her colon had herniated up and into her thoracic cavity. As it wasn’t deemed an emergency, she was sent home to seek a specialist.
Two weeks later, she was seen by a specialist and reported a history of numerous episodes of pain near her scapula, usually a day before her period started. She also complained of right chest discomfort, difficulty breathing, and constipation.
Surgery began with a look in her thoracic cavity. Her liver, gall baldder, and colon had herniated up and into her thoracic cavity as her diaphragm and ruptured in a small area. There was also a small gray nodule discovered on the edge of her diaphragm. They placed her herniated organs back where they belonged, excised the nodule, and repaired her ruptured diaphragm. Pathology came back that the nodule was Endometriosis. The authors suspect that the “invasiveness of endometriotic tissue cause diaphragm fragility, which finally led to its complete rupture…” After surgery, she was given six months of “ovarian suppression therapy.”
In the September 2012 edition of Surgical Endoscopy, a review of seven years of diaphragmatic endometriosis patients was reviewed. Over the seven-year period, 3,008 patients were diagnosed with pelvic Endo. Of those, 46 had diaphragmatic Endo. Each underwent surgery. All but three had excision surgery. The remaining three had “superficial endometriosis” and the lesions and/or nearby nerves were burned (diathemocoagulation). The study doesn’t discuss their surgical outcomes, symptom relief, or recurrence, but does insist that the treatment requires multi-disciplinary care.
The Korean Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology Science published a 2012 report of a 40-year-old woman who had a recurrent spontaneous collapsed right lungs. Her lung only collapsed during her periods. She had a chest x-ray and a CT scan done, which led to a surgery. They found lesions on her diaphragm, which they resected and biopsied. After they received the pathology results of Endometriosis, she was treated with a GnRH agonist. Unfortunately, the abstract doesn’t mention how she fared after treatment.
In 2018, the International Journal of Fertility & Sterility a 20-year-old woman complained of severe pain over the last year while she was on her period. She had no other complaints. The physical examination revealed two masses affixed to her uterus, and an ultrasound confirmed they were cysts and adhesions. An MRI was conducted and showed normal upper cavity findings (liver, spleen, pancreas, kidneys, lungs), but confirmed the masses along her uterus and sigmoid colon.
Laparoscopic surgery was performed and they found Endometriosis throughout her pelvic cavity, as well as ovarian cysts and adhesions. During that surgery, they explored what they could of her upper cavity. Five to six “areas of superficial endometriosis” were found on the center and right sides of her diaphragm. Those lesions were burned away. An endoscopic exploration of her thoracic cavity was not conducted since her diaphragmatic endo was superficial and she had no symptoms of chest pain, shoulder pain, or collapsed lungs to indicate further involvement of the diaphragm. She was treated with “suppressive hormonal medications” after her surgery.
In the July 2020 publication of The New Indian Journal of OBGYN, a 47-year-old woman complained of a 10-month old cough, sometimes spewing up blood. She also had right upper quadrant pain and right arm and shoulder pain for the past 15 years. The pain and bloody-coughing seemed to follow her menstrual cycle. She had been told previously that she had Endometriosis, but this was a clinical diagnosis with no surgery. Chest x-rays and a physical exam were normal. An ultrasound found a small mass on the right half of her diaphragm, which extended into the right lobe of her liver. Further imaging studies found the mass also extended into the lower lobe of her lung, too.
They presumed it was Endometriosis and a liver biopsy confirmed a diagnosis of liver Endometriosis. Due to her age and “perimenopausal status” (and I’m also assuming the risks and potential complications involved with liver and lung resections) it was decided that surgery would be avoided. Rather, she was treated with GnRH agonists or progestagens. She was non-compliant with the medication and was later readmitted into the emergency room due to ongoing pain. A CT scan found that the endometrioma on the liver had enlarged by 4 cms and the lung lesion was more pronounced. The patient was “counselled” and she agreed to take the drugs with add-back therapy. Three months later, a CT scan found the nodules had not grown. They are hoping she can continue pharmaceutical management of her symptoms.
The authors found that x-rays may help diagnose thoracic Endometriosis, but a CT scan and MRI may be more helpful in further identifying Endometriosis lesions or assist the physicians in ruling out other theories. The study closes on a very knee-jerk-reaction-inducing sentence (well, at least for me):
“Hysterectomy with bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy removes the underlying cause but if hormone replacement therapy is initiated there may be then be a recurrence of thoracic endometriosis.”
Bleh. What a way to close it out. Removing the uterus, tubes and ovaries isn’t a cure, Doctors. It may help some women with symptoms, but it’s not “the underlying cause” of Endometriosis. *sigh* Regardless of my state of irritation at this sentence, I do hope that the 47-year-old patient has lasting relief. And if she decides to pursue it has surgery with a skilled excision surgeon and multi-disciplinary team.
There are plenty more studies out there, but this is all I have digested at the moment. I do plan to add more as I have the time to read them.
As usual, know your own body. Track your symptoms. Feel free and empowered to talk to your physician. Request tests and imaging studies. Find competent care. Pursue whatever avenue of treatment you feel is best for you.
Know that diaphragmatic Endometriosis is considered extremely rare. But, coming from someone who has had it, and after reading the studies above, know that it IS possible.
Advocate for yourself. And get the care you know you deserve.
Do you have diaphragmatic Endometriosis? What are your symptoms? What’s helped (or not helped) you along your Journey? Share with us in the comments below!
Fertility & Sterility (Feb. 2002; abstract) – Diaphragmatic Endometriosis: diagnosis, surgical management, and long-term results of treatment
~ Again, I am a layman. I do not hold any college degrees, nor mastery of knowledge. Please take what I say with a grain of salt. If curious, do your own research 😉 Validate my writings. Or challenge them. And ALWAYS feel free to consult with your physician. Always. Yours ~ Lisa
Another month is behind us. I have my consultation with my surgeon on September 15th to discuss my deep-infiltrating Endometriosis on my sigmoid colon and (hopefully) schedule a surgery with he and my colo-rectal surgeon to handle it.
So, in preparation for those meetings, I’ve been tinkering with my pain journal with how better to visualize or express my symptoms to others. And here’s what I’ve come up with:
As you can see, while I was on my period (the cells shaded red), pain levels were higher across the board, and more consistent on a daily basis. The “glass guts” feeling when I poop has calmed down a lot to where it’s just a painful sharp stabbing when I go half the time. And pretty much most of the other pain I experienced during the month is an odd sharp stabbing or ache every once in a while on the right or left of my lower abs.
A third of the month, I experienced days of pain of the lower left side (hello, Sigmoid Colon?). And 20% of the month had pain on the lower right abs, don’t ask me why. Most of the 12-16% of lower uterine/middle abdomen pain and lower back pain occurred while I was on my period.
Here’s the usual daily pain and food tracker, if you’re ever interested in the play-by-play:
And I still track my bowel movements and pain on a separate tracker. What goes in must come out, eh? This chart will be of particular importance to me as I head in for my bowel consultations.
During the month of August, I poo’d 41 times. Only 25 of those times were pain-free, so a little more than half. Every date on this chart represents a poo. If there’s multiple dates (like the 3rd, for example), I poo’d multiple times that day. If there’s a blue line, it means it hurt with a regular poo. If there’s a red line, it was diarrhea with pain. So, for example, on August 14 I poo’d and it stabbed through my guts with an 8 out of 10 pain level. Ugh. And the most painful poos (8 out of 10) only occurred while I was on my period. If there’s a date with no blue or red line, it was a pain-free poo.
And the charts continue! Of my August poops, 63% of them were diarrhea. That’s alotta shit. Well, a lot of loose shit…
And of those loose and watery bowel movements, a whopping 64% of them were pain-free. But when it did hurt, it varied between a 1-8 on the pain scale.
What about the logs? Of those solid non-liquid poos, half of them were pain-free also. And when it hurt, it ranged from a 1-8 out of 10 as well.
Overall, I’m super pleased with August. I only needed one Naproxen for my pain, and that was during my period. The four Ibuprofen I took in August were for headaches and not related to any Endometriosis pain.
I’m intrigued with the poo-data and look forward to sharing with my doctors. And would still like to pursue a path of colo-rectal surgery to look at and remove the DIE on my sigmoid colon. Perhaps after it’s gone, my bowel movements can become more consistently pain-free and solid.
The end of another week. And nearly the end of August! I hope you’re doing well.
Today’s quote goes out to the partners, spouses, significant others, friends, support systems, and loved ones of EndoWarriors, regardless of their sex of gender identity.
“Suffering should not define you as a woman! And just because you’re a man it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t affect you! HELP HER to remove the taboos and the loneliness surrounding this disease; be understanding, show empathy, and don’t accuse her of being sensitive, delicate, or overly dramatic – this is a big opportunity for you guys to show that you care and to be a real man!”
(Address, 2011 Endometriosis Foundation of America Blossom Ball)” ― Susan Sarandon
I’m lucky enough to have a partner who is understanding, strives to learn more, and is incredibly supportive. But not everyone is as lucky.
I absolutely cannot believe it’s August already. This year has flown by. And what a weird year, indeed.
So here’s my July pain, symptom, and diet tracker.
I’ve had A LOT less pain in July. And also skipped my period, which may explain that (plus the benefits of my excision surgery). But when I did have pain, it was on both the lower right side and lower left side of my lower abdomen (pain ranged from 2-8 out of 10). I also had some lower abdomen pain, like uterine cramping for a few days (1-3 out of 10) with mirrored lower back pain. And I went through the emotional gambit of a period, even though I was blood-less.
I still what what I call “Shifty Poo Pain” from time to time, which is that glass-guts feeling that makes it way through the middle of my guts and especially prevalent on the left side of my guts before I poo. Once I have shifty-poo pain, I usually poop within 20 minutes. Glass-Guts shifty pre-poo pain ranged from a 3-9 out of 10.
And the act of dropping a deuce itself? Now that depends. My graphs have evolved to better help me process (haha there’s a pun in there somewhere) the information!
Of the 50 times I pooped in July, a third of it was diarrhea.
And of the regular poos, here’s my pain levels on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the WORST pain EVER). A not-so-whopping 22% of my poopin’ caused me 0 pain:
And of the Liquid Shits (aka MudButt aka Diarrhea), the majority (64%) remained painless:
Why did I alter my Poopy Pain charts? I have my consult on September 1st to discuss ongoing symptoms regarding the deep-infiltrating Endometriosis on my sigmoid colon and I wanted to arm myself with statistics. My own statistics. 🙂
All-in-all, I’m pleased with July’s outcome. I’m sad about the ongoing glass-guts feeling, but take heart in knowing I have an appointment in September to discuss it.
Another week is over. July is over! How was your month? How are you feeling?
I’ve had a long, busy, difficult week. It’s my first week back at the office since the Covid-19 lockdown. And it’s been long hours with client interviews. I know that so many of us have been so so very much.
Today’s quote may be a reflection of what you and I have been through in our own individual life experiences:
“It has been said, ‘time heals all wounds.’ I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone.” ― Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy
Whatever pain it is that may be “encased” in a protective film of defense or protection, may we each strive to slowly peel it free and cope. If you ever need someone to talk to, I’m always here.
We are strong. We are capable. And whatever it is we may be going through, we will endure.
Love yourself. Know that you’re worth it. Try to avoid self-deprecating thoughts and talk. Treat yourself well.
I decided earlier this year that I was going to invest in my health. Try to stop buying little things and fancy baubles and clothes and toys and books. And start buying things that may help me and my health.
I’ve invested in a veggie spiralizer and have enjoyed sweet potato and zucchini noodles.
I hired a personal trainer after my surgery restrictions lifted and “see” her once a week. C-19 has put us into virtual mode. The rest of the week I use her hybrid program and smartphone app.
I’ve learned to propagate my succulents and am filling my life with beautiful, happy li’l plants.
I go to acupuncture twice a month.
I finally purchased and take supplements/vitamins better targeted for my body, including DIM SGS, n-acetylcysteine, a great probiotic, an organic women’s multivitamin, calcium, iodine, curcumin, additional Vitamin D3, and fiber. I even purchased the Chinese herb tincture at my last acupuncture appointment to try to level out some menstrual-phase issues I’m having.
And I most recently acquired a personal at-home blood pressure monitor.
And it’s been wonderful. Now, the second any of these treats-to-myself become a financial difficulty or burden, I will stop. But for now? It’s been great. I really have enjoyed treating myself. Especially to something that may help me greater in the long-run.
Whether it be chocolate syrup, a good book, a piece of nostalgia, renting a movie, or WHATEVER – what’s your favorite thing to treat yourself? Share in the comments below! 🙂
And have a beautiful weekend. You’re worth it. All of it.